Super Bowl Conspiracies And Betting The Farm

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All going on a cruise shipping this.

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Yeah. How was your cruise?

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It was good. I had a day where I was the most relaxed I've ever been in my entire life.

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Wow. My mother paid for me to have this $200 massage.

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I've never had a like professional massage before and it was fantastic like.

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OK.

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And she she only did it because.

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She had one herself and she was like, this was amazing. I have to pay for all you.

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Guys to go do it. And I'm like all about it now that I'm home. I need one every week because I'm like I have to relive this, you know.

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Yeah, but it'll.

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Was that on the?

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Boat. Yeah. Yeah, that was on the boat. And I think the best part for me, it's kind of sappy. I'm not normally sappy, but the best part for me was seeing.

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Sophie, in like a different setting than the house.

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UM, Sophie, I have a 2 year old named Sophie and she's bonkers. She's we call her a raccoon. She's wild, she's feral, feral, she's into everything, she's crying. She's just just a mess, right? And to see her, like, happy and enjoying and like, like, I don't know, I just saw her in a different light than me seeing her at the end of the day.

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OK.

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After work where she's worn out, she's tired. She's hungry.

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And are worn out and.

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You know, and I'm tired and hungry. Exactly. And it was just like.

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Oh my God, she's amazing. Like this is the girl. I I felt like I'd missed out on who she was until that crew is. I I felt like like this is my daughter and she's amazing, you know.

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Who knew? See, you gotta get a massage.

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And like a lesson.

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My my first message was was from a cruise as well. We we had a like a destination and it was a private beach in Mexico.

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Never done a massage and so paid for it. And the lady like she's just speaking Spanish like it is just this like remote village. OK. And so I'm just like.

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On the table bathing suit cause it's on the beach.

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And she just pulls my bathing suit down. And so I'm just, like, just **** *** on the beach in front of the other people that also paid for this experience. There's no tents. There's nothing. I mean, right, this is how we get massages here. And that was my first one. And I'm like, I think I need massages moving forward. Yeah. Absolutely. And I did. That was like, one of the best things that.

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That happened to me even.

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How it hurt, I don't know if you was hurt the first time, but.

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Yeah, your your upper. Yeah. For me, it was my neck. My, my traps, my shoulders. It's just I have a drywaller. So all that just sticks. It's right there.

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Everything. Everything hurt, yeah.

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Ohh yeah, all that lactic acid. Just yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. Well, welcome to the show.

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This is **** T.O.K.

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Just want to take a second here to introduce everybody before we keep diving into what we're gonna talk about, we're going to dive into a lot of NFL content, Super Bowls coming up. We are filming this before the AFC and NFC Championship game, so we do not know who's in the Super Bowl. We have a we can guess within what 4.

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4 possibilities, but we're going to talk sports betting and.

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Then we'll see where the conversation goes. S let me just introduce everybody. Derek, why don't you, why don't you go for? Well, I'm mark. You already know that because you know I'm the celebrity on the show. That's why you're here. And.

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Got it.

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People are like.

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Who the **** is this? That.

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Big radio stars, yes.

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Yeah. Yeah, Derek, why don't you just just tell people what you.

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Do well. My name is Derrick Morowski. I help write for fantasy Holics, which is a fantasy football advice forum where we hope.

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Our follower.

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Get the best info possible to help reach their fantasy championships and ultimately win.

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We feel like we are an up and coming resource to be able to use our rankings, our injury advice, our.

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That just put the best possible people in your lineups to be able to.

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Get what you want and that is more money usually, right?

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Do you just do fantasy football or do you also do fantasy survivor?

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Because that's my.

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So I actually.

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We we don't do survivor, but I was in my first Survivor League this year.

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OK, yes, here's the thing. I remember getting a thing way back in season two, I think Yahoo.

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Started a Survivor Fantasy League and you draft all the people.

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I love it. Yeah, I love survivor. I live on survivor.

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I actually cashed out in my first Survivor League. There were three people that made it to the end with a $2000 pot, so I got to split it three ways and.

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I I made out pretty well. I'm happy for that.

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Which is why all these Honolulu blue drinks are on Derek. Cheers.

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Cheers, mate. Cheers gents.

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Yeah. So these are all inspired by copper crafts, Honolulu blue. We have a nice can here, but that's.

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In in, in celebration and in lieu of.

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The I can't even believe I'm saying this the like potential NFC champions and the Lions. Maybe I jinxed it by the time you're watching. Still though, if I jinxed it or not. But yeah, where the lines are right now. I mean only one time and I think all our lifetimes that they've been this far in the planet. So since 93 or 90.

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Where are you?

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Ohh yeah yeah yeah.

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19/19/91 I believe, yeah.

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919191 Z.

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OK.

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There you go. Yeah, 1991 Barry Sanders is on that.

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Team, right? Yeah.

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You think he was a like second year in in the?

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First or second year?

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Yeah, he was like though.

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This is gonna be amazing. Yeah, my career is.

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Gonna be fantastic.

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With this, Steve yeah.

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Ohh and then it yeah.

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It's really good. All right. So, yeah. Thanks, Derek. Tyler. Hi, and welcome to the show.

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Tyler, thank you. Tyler alerts. Emma. Yeah. Lurtsema. Well, technically, the real Dutch pronunciation is like lurtsema, but I can't even do it. It's got some weird rolling of the rolling of the tongue on the double U's, so, yeah.

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Is that actually how you say? It alerts, Emma. There's an extra syllable on there.

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Right.

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The Americans, though, was alert SEMA.

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And I am a drywaller. I own a drywall franchise, Avid Sports fan. I love competition of all kinds. I'm here to discuss strategy. What's going to take to win and all that.

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Yeah. When in life as well and yeah.

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Ohh yeah.

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My name is Nick, I'm it's Keselowski. We don't it's, you know, quite the.

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Last name like.

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Is that is that actually how you say?

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Your last name just loose. We have 3.

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Soloski yeah, yeah.

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Wild last names, so yeah.

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Wow, I've known you for, gosh, 6-7 years. Seven years, I think, did not know that that's how you said your last name. I always thought it was Kozlowski.

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Yeah, and.

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Yeah. Causality. Ski. Yeah. Yeah, extra little simple syllable on there.

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Either no one corrected me.

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Nobody, nobody, nobody really knew. I think you'll probably didn't know.

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Or no one else knows how to say.

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It although the spelling.

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Makes a lot of sense to me now. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, man, there's a couple of silent letters in his name.

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Yeah. And they actually, so my family removed some letters when they came over from Poland. Yeah. So it was kisielewski is what it used to be. Yeah.

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Go back, go back to it.

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Love it.

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I know, man, I might.

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That's, I mean, they're both hard.

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To figure out what it's just.

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I know, yeah.

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Add a ZA couple of YW. Ohh, there's a W.

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Yeah. We're, we're.

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Maybe we can't all have our last name like Paul.

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You know where can what are you doing? What?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm a serial entrepreneur. Basically, my first company do outdoor lighting, but I do a lot of sports betting, doing it for a while. I've won a lot and then lost all of it. And then once I'm back and so I'm starting a sports betting.

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Company kind of getting into the space now.

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When? So that's kind of my my big passion. So NFL, I love NFL. But you know I I mean, I was up at like 3:00 AM two nights ago betting on the Australian Open, you know? So like, exactly, yeah. Just a total like move.

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I mean, why wouldn't you?

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I mean, I hit my bat, so who cares it.

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Was it was worth it? Yeah.

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Awesome. And what's what's your? Do you have a?

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Name for your sports.

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Yeah. So it's going to be.

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I'm basically I'm launching it next week, but it's gonna be on Patreon. Knicks picks is what is going to be and I want to teach people how to actually sports. Bet everybody chases these big, like, parlays, which are fun, like sprinkle a couple of bucks and see if you can hit a few $1000, but it's just not actually like a way to bet on sports.

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In a consistent way and be profitable, people go broke doing it and so I'm trying to trying to get people to learn the industry a little bit differently.

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OK.

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OK, so you're like.

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You're going to teach me how to read cards, and most people are just going and playing slots. That's what you're saying. OK. Awesome. Well, we'll. Yeah, we'll dive into into everything betting with you. We're looking forward to doing that. I think to start. You know, cuz if you've watched the first couple episodes.

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Yeah, exactly. Yep, Yep.

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We, Joel and I, Joe's behind the camera, so I'm the only person who can look at his face right now, but we we talked a lot about homesteading in the first couple episodes.

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Homesteading in in the greater sphere of being self-sufficient and that's why I love this topic, because a lot of people want to have like a side hustle or they want, you know, they're looking to make extra money. They want to work from home, which, like a lot of us do. And like, it's great to be able to just sit at a computer and do something Tyler's like.

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I would die if I did that. I'll take.

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Gotta keep moving.

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Gotta move, but I think a lot of people would love to be able to have that side hustle kind of at. So I think that that's where we'll start is, I mean, obviously you made, you've made some money. How can somebody?

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Who's just starting out?

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That says I love sports and plenty of people love sports and and that's that. That can mean a lot of different things, but where you know, there's there's everything from the, like, the fantasy football side, of course is, you know, I'm hopping in the league with a few of my buddies, and we're doing this thing. But.

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Usually that's. I mean, what's your typical buyout in in a like a league that you're in in the end? In the end, what do?

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You win if you win well.

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A typical buy in.

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Is $25 ish? I think everybody's usually comfortable with that. Like Oh yeah, it's it doesn't break the bank. 2550 dollars. Some people I hear I hear in my group fantasy holics one has $1000 league and I personally think that that's a lot. But if you know your stuff.

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Which is this like.

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100 bucks every morning.

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And you know the INS and outs of football and how injuries play out the whole season.

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Then you can take advantage of that and your knowledge of the whole system, and you could you make that big money.

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Right.

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Problem is in $1000 league. It's not just like yeah, I don't know much about football, but hey, why not? I'll I'll put $1000.

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On this fantasy team.

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I mean, some people have that ability to do that, but probably illegal like that.

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You've got 8 to 12 people that know what they're doing, and that's where it would be. Maybe maybe you can clean up if you guys have some some secrets.

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You know, yeah.

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Now do you guys get into like the DFS side of things too, like the daily, like the daily leagues? Is that part of what you do?

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Yeah. So we we did have a.

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Specialist in the DFS realm, where every week he would post some of his best plays. Yeah, to put into your normal lineups like ohh yeah, this quarterback he's starting this week in place of the guy who's injured, which happened a lot this year. So many backup quarterbacks.

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OK.

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Hmm yeah.

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So you should run with this guy who's bound to put up some good points against.

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Pretty terrible defense. Yeah. Play this guy along with stacking their wide receiver, their tight end with them. So he he can put out his best picks with their price and you try and formulate your best lineups to with with some of those, along with some of your own preferences.

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Yeah. Yeah. I feel like there's a natural, like progression there from just like the regular, like, fantasy football that we all kind of grew up with. And then tying that into like, DFS or, you know, just like, you know, standard, like sports betting, like, it's all like if you have that knowledge, you can just use it a different way. You mean. So that makes sense for you guys.

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OK, let's say.

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I've got.

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500 bucks that I just wanna. You know. I'm I I love. I just want to get into sports betting and and I I I I say this as a person who is never other than actually going to Vegas and betting while I was there because it was like I don't know it was probably 10 years ago and it was like oh sweet you can bet on sports here and it was.

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What you doing? You. Yeah.

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I took like 5 bucks on this game, 5 bucks on this over under. You know, it was. And I had no clue what I was doing. I think I won, you know.

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I don't know 35 bucks on a $5 bet or something like that. And so I felt pretty darn good about myself. I said I should have put 1000 on that, but.

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That's not bad. Yeah.

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If I've got 100 bucks, 500 like where, where do I start? In sports betting to to. To go like that's. I have no idea where to start.

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So, so stuff like like what Derek does, right? So where you know you've got guys that are like you know telling you this is the quarterback, this is the play, right? This is the wide receiver, this the right like starting there with the basic knowledge and then and then diving into there's other websites like I mean there's a bunch but like.

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There's one called props cash. They do just fantasy deep dive static.

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Into basically everything. Everything sports betting, everything kind of like like fantasy too. And so you start there, you start with getting your knowledge up because like like that like $5 you want 35 and that's when the chasing starts and then you're like.

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Oh, I'll put.

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I can do this again. This is easy.

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Yeah, I'll put.

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A I'll put 100 bucks on it, right? And then and then. Now you're at 100 bucks, and then you kind of start over and then you win a little bit and you have no idea how to actually, like, manage.

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Your bank roll at all. Which?

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Which is every beginner's main problem is a bankroll.

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OK, talk to me about that. I don't know what that.

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Yeah. So you have 5.

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Means. So tell me what?

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100 bucks, OK.

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One unit is going to be you're going to bet $5. Those are going to be your straight bets and those are going to be bets that you feel confident in. And when I say a straight bet, I mean a single like, you're going to take.

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OK. The you know lions versus Niners. My one of my straight bets is I'm taking Brock Purdy for 250 yards. That's almost a guarantee. Unless he really has a bad game or gets hurt or gets hurt. And it just.

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Which what are you gonna do if a guy gets hurt? You can't. You can't plan for an injury, right?

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Happens right, right. And it just happens. So I'm going to take a unit and I'm going to put it on.

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Ernie and then I'm going to I'm going to use some of the websites that I use for sports betting.

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And just find the best value for the best. And that's really.

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So you're finding the like the best odds to where when he throws for 250 yards, you're gonna make the best payout.

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Right, right. And so so like because you could take, you could take Brock Purdy, you could take Christian McCaffrey to rush for, you know, 40 yards but.

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The odds would be like -2000 and so you'd put $10 on it and you'd win $10.05 or something. Whatever. You know, whatever the odds are, it's guaranteed. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So you find, you find where, where? Vegas. Kind of messed up and and they undervalued or overvalued a.

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Because it's just so likely to happen.

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Peck and you just kind of try to hedge and find your straights that you like.

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So how are with your venture? Ohh, I wanna back up. How do you start a sports betting company?

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What is that like? Obviously you get an LLC and all that stuff that that's fine. But what? What is it that's going into it?

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So basically, I honestly I had a dream and to I mean crystal clear, I microdosed mushrooms the night before and I had a dream.

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I had a dream that.

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Same just like 15 minutes ago.

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Yeah, I mean.

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The podcast is called **** Talk. Let's just like.

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How can we? Yeah, you know, we're all about just grabbing it from the earth.

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Right, you.

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I might die in the next 20 minutes. Just keep going without me. I'll be fine.

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Like those other microdosing I saw, everybody put their head down.

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There's a there's.

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A good chance that the the Honolulu blue will just eat away at something in there and I'll come back.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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I'll be back.

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All right, I.

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So you a good night.

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Had I had a good night? Yeah. I had a dream about basically this marketing plan for, for sports betting. And so honestly, I approached the people that I knew in the industry just someone like the CEO's and like people that run.

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These like 20,000 plus member discords.

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And nobody really saw, like, my vision of what I wanted to do, so I was.

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Just like I don't know. **** it. I'm just gonna do it myself. And so basically what that looked like is just starting from scratch. I'm like alright, I need a name and I'm like, well, my name's next to next picks. That's perfect. Really left into that one. Yeah.

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Thanks, mom.

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And then after that it was just like kind of creating my business plan and that's that's pretty much what I've been doing is so I'm I'm getting on Patreon, I'm going to be super cheap because I want people to actually, like, learn the industry, be able to make money doing it and not spend all this money chasing these giant parlays thinking they're going to win.

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You know, $10,000 off a single hit because it's just not, not really like I've hit. I've hit big like that. But you have to spend, you have to spend a lot of money to and and then you end up breaking Even so.

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Well, I mean it's it's almost like.

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Investing right, like in in the stock market, which is in some respects a lottery kind of vibe too. If you really know if you know some things then you know some you know sometimes you hit and you you like 10X20X30X your money yeah and sometimes but sometimes you only make 5% fifteen you know if you can make more than 10%.

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Yep, for sure.

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Yeah, and.

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On your money overnight.

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It's funny because in stock investments, if somebody said, hey, you're going to put 100 bucks down today and tomorrow you get 110, there's very few people that wouldn't do that cause it's such easy money. You literally did nothing. And so in sports betting, if you can make 10 bucks on 100 bucks and it's.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I I guess the the the risk of that is that if you're wrong, you just lose it all, whereas in the stock market, if you're wrong, you lose.

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Some of the money, but not all.

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Right, right. And. And so like that is part of it is and it's just just like the stock market, a lot of people like like when GameStop happened right now, everybody's looking for the next, yeah, everybody's looking for the next game stop and just wasting thousands of dollars.

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Can we call this episode to the Moon? That was like Reddit for six months. The top story was something.

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My dude.

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Let's talk to the.

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To the moon, and then everybody was never to the moon. Everybody wasted their money.

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Just GME.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then they were like, wait, it's gonna it's going super high. You actually can't sell it today. You have to wait till tomorrow because you're blocking, Biden said we had.

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Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah.

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And so.

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Actually is what happened.

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Yeah. You know, essentially with, with sports betting like that, you have to just remain. You have to remain crystal clear on what you're trying to do. So if you start with $500, you just know that you're, you know, if you win your bets and you're going to.

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Lose a couple.

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Like you might be at 500 and.

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$20 on the next day. But you, you know, the goal is to slowly build that up and then the goal is to take money out and do it again. That's where a lot of people really screw up is they don't take money out and then they start losing. They start betting bigger, losing more and then, you know, you have $1000 in your account and it's all gone.

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Now you're you're starting again with, like, 20 bucks and.

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Basically cause they feel good about what they did and they're like I know I'm gonna hit on this one. I've I've been. I've hit on all these other ones. That means I'm gonna hit on this and yeah. Past.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You don't want to overstep your bet.

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Past success? Yeah, past success doesn't necessarily mean you're.

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Gonna right be correct every.

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Yeah. And the.

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Time. I think it, I think at the core of it too is is if you wanted to make this a side hustle, you have to have extreme passion, extreme drive to do the research, to know exactly what you're betting on. If you don't know what you're betting on.

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Chances are you're not going to hit it.

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Yep, Yep. And you get lucky sometimes, and then you get a little.

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Overconfident and.

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Ohh yeah, I wonder how many people are out there that don't even like sports, but they understand the analytics and are like I can just make hand over fist here. If I understand you know, if you and there's there's guys I've seen you know little like videos where they're they say here's the you know I've developed this.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Thing and I don't show anybody it and I make.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Tons of money.

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You know, they've got their little, especially I'd say, probably like 10-15 years ago before analytics really started to be public. Yeah, that people were able to compile their own analytics on certain sporting leagues and then they had this.

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Advantage over everybody and they, you know, could go well. Yes, this team is.

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Like we'll say, two years ago, lines are one and six. Should they have been one and six based on everything that was happening with the team? Probably not. They got a little unlucky at times and like sports is always going to be, there's always some, some unlucky lucky wins. You can have a team that's six and one and they're they're a **** team and you go oh, they're like that's a fraud.

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You know that that team is gonna get knocked off because they just played five really bad teams and they won all the games by 6 points and they're, you know, that's that's a.

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Right, yeah.

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An advantage that you have is being looking at all the numbers. I wonder how many people just are like I don't even.

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Like sports, but I can do this.

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Right. Well, it was like it was kind of like the Dallas game when Tampa Bay just walked in and just smacked him in the mouth. Anybody that watched Dallas knew that they beat up at home on really bad teams typically and they didn't play good teams especially well.

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Their division was bad.

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And their division was bad. So everybody that.

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Really, watch football. New like, OK, Tampa's getting a little hot right now and the Cowboys, I mean, they dropped. Really. They should have dropped three in a row if it wasn't for for our favorite ref, right?

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So, like if you pay attention to that stuff, but there are guys like like you said that just they bet on systems. So like there's there was a popular group that was betting Tampa Bay money line only because the lions were -6 and.

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1/2 so they they were favorites, two games in a row and they were like that.

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Never works out Tampa money line.

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I'm like, damn you guys didn't of course, like I stitched on tic Tac. I mean, you guys don't even watch football. Like, if you're really saying that like they're not, they're not beating the lions. There's no possible way. It's just not happening. And well, I mean, I almost ate crow on that, but we still want. I was the winner.

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But you didn't. And that's the point, right?

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Yeah, it's so all right. So you've got the, the daily betting you've got the the like, I guess fantasy fantasy in general when you're talking the whole season, it's kind of a long outlook. How do you pair the two? Like what's the, what's the strategy for going? I'm going to play fantasy.

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Or what's the advantage of playing the whole season versus playing the daily fantasy or?

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Well, you want to know what a big aspect of fantasy football that we a lot of our teammates focus in on is called Dynasty Fantasy Football and that is a league that is active.

:: 24:38

All year round.

:: 24:40

And your players values can fluctuate like stocks.

:: 24:45

Like say mid season or in the even in the off season you get a new weapon that that your team drafts.

:: 24:52

Like ohh man.

:: 24:53

Or your guy signs as a free agent somewhere else and suddenly they've got a better quarterback around.

:: 24:57

Them or Yep. So and then there's people that bought them out at the end of the season and then that team drafts a whole new set of skilled position. They get a new coach.

:: 25:09

Their value starts to climb like in anticipation that they're in for a breakout year. So a lot of stuff happens in the off season that you got to pay attention to that you can.

:: 25:22

Take advantage of those shifts and you can if you can see that kind of coming in the future like, oh, this team, yeah, they're going to draft a wide receiver and they're going to make this team a lot better. Yeah. I'm going to go after get this young quarterback. I'll sell high on my.

:: 25:40

Quarterback that has done really super well. Like for instance, I bought on a an Orphan dynasty team this past year.

:: 25:51

So you're saying that by. By orphan you mean the owner left the league and you were able to buy in and?

:: 25:58

So they they had some good pieces, but I decided to trade some top talent high and get some draft picks where I drafted CJ Stroud as my first pick in that draft.

:: 26:14

Where I could have.

:: 26:14

He's a Michigan fan. I I.

:: 26:16

Have to scold you.

:: 26:18

But as an NFL fan?

:: 26:21

Somebody was looking to make money. CJ Stroud is.

:: 26:21

Did this? Yeah, yeah.

:: 26:26

According to according to Fantasy Holics, our third overall dynasty quarterback right now, which?

:: 26:35

In most leagues, is super valuable. Some people do Super Flex, which you can play 2 quarterbacks in the league.

:: 26:43

Where CJ Stroud is the cream of the crop right now, with how he did in his rookie year.

:: 26:49

Not to mention the draft capital that Houston has, they're going to just put more pieces around.

:: 26:53

Him. Yes, exactly so.

:: 26:57

I'd say.

:: 26:59

Being able to see that kind of like a stock market and see these players values dip and dive and dodge and dip. Yes, we're playing dodgeball here too, folks.

:: 27:13

You can dodge a wrench.

:: 27:17

In that aspect, you can kind of see trends in the in the sports industry.

:: 27:25

As a whole, really.

:: 27:27

Yeah, the the dynasty fantasy leagues are. I mean they've, they've, they've been around for probably a decade now, but maybe longer. But kind of started to become more popular because once you know, there there are those the the underground fantasy leagues where they they're the 1st to kind of trying new things out. But then once ESPN.

:: 27:35

Longest yet.

:: 27:47

Grabs it, Yahoo grabs it and they start to run with it. Then that's kind of when the mainstream starts to go in that direction.

:: 27:57

And there's nothing wrong with. I guess playing fantasy for fun, right? Like, it is fun. You putting 25 bucks on it? It's not a big deal. Like if you lose your 25 bucks, you don't care, you go.

:: 28:08

I mean.

:: 28:08

There's 18 weeks in an NFL season. You just paid $1.35 per week to be a part of a fantasy.

:: 28:17

It's not bad, and if you win, cool, you win probably 200.

:: 28:21

250 bucks.

:: 28:22

Right. Oh yeah.

:: 28:24

And you get to go buy yourself.

:: 28:25

Something nice, that's right.

:: 28:28

I think the like where where I want to go with it is. How do I get to this like like what we're talking about about this being a side hustle like hey, I don't need to make $100,000 a year. I mean, I think all of us would go well.

:: 28:44

If I could make 100.

:: 28:45

Still see you're doing it? That'd be cool. But if you could make an extra 5 to 10 grand over the course of an entire year, or even just the season.

:: 28:57

What do you what do you do? How do you do it?

:: 28:59

Yeah. You know you have to start again. You have to start with a bank roll. So like, what's your goal? You want to make 500 a week? Do you want to make 500 a month and then break it down from there? And you have to just stick with playing. You have to stick with playing your units. So like, you have to play a unit.

:: 29:16

Every bet, like there's there is no easy way to do it. You can win huge parlays I I think I hit one on like October the the odds were plus 55,000. So I put $15. I won like 7 grand on.

:: 29:32

I'm like a three legged parley. Yeah, it was crazy. That's fun. Yeah, it was. It was pretty cool. I.

:: 29:36

So how many? OK, so alright. So you want 15 bucks for 7000? How many parlays?

:: 29:42

Did you do where you lost $15 on each of the parlays?

:: 29:47

Over the course of the year? Sure. Yeah. Time. Yeah. Parleys you don't.

:: 29:50

So you're kind of like you're kind of just, you're going alright if I put let's let's say if I if I do 100 bets.

:: 29:58

15 bucks a piece. 1500 bucks. If I hit on one of them, then I win. You win a lot more money.

:: 30:03

Than yes, but you have to hit on one of them and it's hard.

:: 30:09

It's hard to do.

:: 30:09

We even even go in 100 or 200, doesn't. You're not guaranteed to hit.

:: 30:14

On them? No, it's man. It's difficult and that's where people lose all of their money.

:: 30:18

Because it seems like it should. Ohh this will be easy. Yeah, it's guaranteed. Yeah, and all it takes. Because there's three different, usually three. Or you got more than that. Three different outcomes that you need to happen.

:: 30:27

What? Ohh for the legs. No, there's people placing 15 leg parlay.

:: 30:33

Yes, I don't do that. Yeah. Yeah, I.

:: 30:35

OK, well.

:: 30:35

That's that's unreal.

:: 30:38

Yeah, things have to have to go your way.

:: 30:39

And sometimes they do, and we've seen people hit 700, eight, $100,000, ten, $15 bets and it just it happens, but then they get, they get really excited. And the other thing that happens is some lease.

:: 30:54

You gotta get really excited too.

:: 30:55

Yeah, and some, but some of these companies like DraftKings for.

:: 31:00

Sample. They produce fake tickets and they give them to content creators to say, push this out and so now people are like, Oh my God, if I would have just bet, you know, two touchdowns on each of these two players in the NFL season, you know, for week 15, I could have won $12,000. The problem is, they're fake tickets.

:: 31:20

So those bets were never, never a thing.

:: 31:21

No, and it's and. And so a lot of new bidders don't realize, yeah.

:: 31:25

Because I've seen that before, I've seen content creators push their the the bets that they made.

:: 31:29

People make fake tickets all the time. Yeah, all the time. And, like, and even, like the big sports betting companies do it to. And and the crazy part about all this.

:: 31:38

They're marketing, right?

:: 31:40

Get people excited to make go. Make a bet.

:: 31:43

Do the the content creators that have worked with you know draft kings, FanDuel? Whoever points that whatever, there's a million out there now they get paid based on your losses. So when you sign up through these.

:: 32:00

Creators, you know, so if you lose, you know, if you lose $1000, these creators are getting paid 100 bucks. Sometimes more. Just off that loss. So they are encouraging you to sign up and they don't have an incentive to see you win. So it's crazy, man. Like, there's I I was talking earlier. There's no regulation to all this. It is the Wild West.

:: 32:20

I was about to say I can't wait for the FTC to get involved.

:: 32:20

Right now.

:: 32:24

Yeah. So the Federal Trade Commission, they are pretty like they can be pretty big sticklers on advertising. So I would, I would guess that the way around that is by using just content creators and they just go well, we're just posting in our own personal page.

:: 32:38

Yep, it's not an ad.

:: 32:39

That's exactly what they do.

:: 32:41

Yeah, that's that's what I want to get into right there. I mean, I don't want to get into deceiving people. I want, I, I, I want to. I want to get into that topic that so I mean you weren't. You aren't doing that because you're not a ******* ****. But.

:: 32:44

Yeah, that's the thing here.

:: 32:47

Yeah, yeah.

:: 33:01

You are trying to do something different to where you actually teach people.

:: 33:04

How to do this?

:: 33:05

Yeah. So I want people to come in.

:: 33:06

That's why I love you. That's that's awesome. That's awesome.

:: 33:08

Yes, I want. I want people to come in and I've got. So I I started creating a free ebook and I teach people bankroll management, teach people how to actually study for bets. And you know, I I'll post. I'll be posting my straights.

:: 33:26

On my Patreon as well, so people can tail my bets if they want to, but I want to kind of create more of like an actual community where it's not like do these these discords and these big sports betting, you know, guys, they are such *****, bro. They are so toxic. It's awful if they get called out.

:: 33:46

They're just sending losers after losers. They get crazy, they start banning people, they just start. Like just saying the worst things.

:: 33:54

So they're chart.

:: 33:54

Like probably charging to be a part of their.

:: 33:56

Discord or something?

:: 33:57

50 bucks a month. Typically and and.

:: 34:00

Have to like dude, you get inside these discords and it's just chaos, yeah.

:: 34:03

20,000 people, that's $1,000,000 a year. They're a million million dollars.

:: 34:07

It's crazy, man. It's crazy.

:: 34:09

I mean, obviously they're hitting on things. If people are paying that much.

:: 34:13

Because they have so because they have so many people in their. So they have all these what's called a capper, right? So they have people that are like, professional sports.

:: 34:23

Letters and they all put out their own picks. So you have like 200 picks that you have to like decipher and people can't. Number one, you don't have the.

:: 34:31

Time for that.

:: 34:32

So you've got every option possible.

:: 34:34

Right, right. So, right. And so they're like, oh, if you would have just tailed our picks, we're up, you know, 40%. It's like, well, people can't just tail, they don't have the time, especially if this is a side hustle, which it is for a lot of people. They don't have the time to just be tailing your 200 picks from all your different cappers.

:: 34:34

So in the end, you know.

:: 34:36

You could have just.

:: 34:52

You know, spending $50.00 a month for you and then watching their, you know, FanDuel, draft Kings account go down because they're picking the wrong picks that you guys put out.

:: 35:01

And so then they just get ****** with everybody. It's it's an awful, awful community. It's truly awful.

:: 35:08

I mean, I suppose.

:: 35:09

I guess no. No offense to people that like to gamble, but like there is a there is a vibe around gamble or like a maybe a.

:: 35:16

Oh, big time, yeah.

:: 35:18

Yeah, there's a cloud around gambling that says.

:: 35:20

Sports bettors are called degenerates for a reason. Yeah, yeah.

:: 35:26

I mean, I don't feel like you're a degenerate though, not like.

:: 35:29

Yeah, I don't want to be, you know, like, I just want to teach people how to do it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

:: 35:32

And I mean like, I've worked with you. I've worked for you and I like. So I I think I can say that at least from my perspective and my experience with you that you are not generous. We try to avoid those people like talk. We we reject them. I mean, we'll love you, but we will.

:: 35:50

Is that why Joel's not on?

:: 35:51

This podcast Joel.

:: 35:59

Yeah, well, why don't we I think this, I think we'll just keep on coming back to that because that's a.

:: 36:06

I feel like that's a rabbit hole. We could probably continue to dive down.

:: 36:11

This is a world that I had no idea existed to like **** rabbit hole like.

:: 36:16

The discord discord, yeah, yeah.

:: 36:18

Knew the discord rabbit hole that for lots of things exist. Yeah, but I I guess I I didn't realize.

:: 36:25

That there was so much.

:: 36:27

Shade on beneath the surface. There's it doesn't surprise me. Right. Right. It doesn't surprise me, but I feel like my mind is actually trying to trying to figure out.

:: 36:28

What? Yeah.

:: 36:30

Oh, it's gambling.

:: 36:42

How how this?

:: 36:43

Is all going on without me knowing about.

:: 36:46

Well, it's not one of your passions, right? It's not a concern of yours.

:: 36:47

No, no. But sports has always been one of my passions. I just have I I think that every time I go to place a sports bet, like when I talked about earlier in the episode, I I was in Vegas and I bet on sports. I think when I was betting, I I thought I felt like my mom was the the good Angel on my shoulder.

:: 37:05

Being like ma'am, don't. Don't put your money in. You know, that's God would not want you.

:: 37:08

That's that's the.

:: 37:09

To do this money.

:: 37:11

You could have tied that instead.

:: 37:14

Instead, you throw it away.

:: 37:16

If I win, I'll tie that.

:: 37:21

Have you ever times have?

:: 37:22

Man, I've made those those.

:: 37:23

Oh yeah, not even at my peak.

:: 37:29

Why don't we just get into, you know, some of the some of the teams that are left? I know probably by the time people are watching.

:: 37:36

That two of the teams won't be there anymore. That's why I kind of just want to get into, like the thoughts on how you're watching this, like both of you especially we're going to watch it because we, I mean it's the lions and it's local and it's it's funny how for me personally, I'm like.

:: 37:51

We have to.

:: 37:56

I have been probably the last three or four years. I've just kind of been like ah, I just can't. I just can't on the NFL anymore.

:: 38:04

For for a.

:: 38:05

Variety of different reasons soured on it, but also I'm super into hockey. I have a hockey podcast, so I kind of had to put my energy there, but it's it's exciting. I I feel like you more than anybody. You've gotten me back into the lines a little bit. So you know thanks.

:: 38:22

But how do you guys as people that you do fantasy you're writing for fantasy? You're betting on sports. How are you guys going to watch these? The NFC AFC Championship Games and and using those games to help you to watch the Super Bowl and bet on the Super Bowl and and do whatever it is that you.

:: 38:42

Yeah, I can tell you from my perspective, first of all it's you know like Lions fan 1st and then sports betting second. So I.

:: 38:52

Or just like totally separate, because if you just go bet on the lions Willy nilly, you're you.

:: 38:58

Yeah. So like, I stay away from like, betting my lions like money line, for example. Like just the outright when, you know, I will bet because I know the lions so well. I I do hit on lions bets.

:: 38:58

Know you know.

:: 39:13

More like the prop bets or the?

:: 39:14

Ohh yeah yeah, I love a I.

:: 39:16

Love a prop bat for sure.

:: 39:17

And if you don't know what a prop, just explain what.

:: 39:19

A prop, that is.

:: 39:20

Yeah, prop that is just like like what we said earlier. So you know, it's a quarterback going to hit. You know, I think black pretty said it late. I don't remember 287 or something like that is going to be over under or you can kind of what's called you know buying points so like you could buy down to 270-5250 that kind of thing Christian McCaffrey.

:: 39:40

You know, so like one of my props. I'm taking Christian McCaffrey. I'll take him 40 receiving yards all day. I think he's going to get that against the lions. Right. Like, this is Christian McCaffrey.

:: 39:50

He's the best in the NFL.

:: 39:52

It's the survivor bet of Will Bryan have sex with three or four people this episode?

:: 39:57

You don't know.

:: 39:59

I don't know if there's even a brightness.

:: 40:01

Brightness throughout the day.

:: 40:03

But yeah, OK. OK, so you're so you are. You're mostly doing the prop bets for the Lions because of how well you know the team. You watch the team every week.

:: 40:10

Yeah, yeah. And then any team that I do make bets on, I actually go and watch film. So I go to like the all 22. I watch actual film on.

:: 40:21

You know, so like the the Ravens game, for example.

:: 40:23

Where do you watch film?

:: 40:25

So you can go right to NFL's website if you sign up for their all 22. You can you can do that. You could easily go to YouTube and you can go through like if you want to keep it free, go to the team schedule and you can go back. So like the the Niners for example, you can go back and you can see pretty good film on all the highlights.

:: 40:45

Just on YouTube and.

:: 40:47

Just watching the highlights from each game.

:: 40:49

That they like.

:: 40:49

Yeah, yeah. And so YouTube does a fantastic job of basically every significant play and you watch the entire.

:: 40:57

The game essentially like that, and so you can see like you know for San Francisco, they almost lost because of their run defense, right. So go back and see that they struggled in what's called a bunch formation. And so when Green Bay had a bunch formation and and had motion, San Francisco got killed.

:: 41:18

And then you start to dive into that, OK, how is San Francisco against the run?

:: 41:23

Outside the tackles, well, it turns out they're bottom 5 in every category against the run outside the tackles.

:: 41:27

Turns out the lines are pretty darn good at.

:: 41:29

And the lines are good.

:: 41:30

Pretty much everything run blows.

:: 41:32

Yes, my mind because like I said, I it's been like 4 years since I really watched the line and right, yeah.

:: 41:34

That has not.

:: 41:37

You haven't missed anything.

:: 41:41

Actually, I really I it's probably been longer because the last time I really remember.

:: 41:46

Being balls out for the lions was when they lost the Cowboys in the playoffs and I think.

:: 41:50

It was after that where it's like something like what 2011. Ohh no, it was 2015. Yeah. 2015. Yeah, yeah. OK. I was like.

:: 41:51

That was 2011. Yeah, 2011. Yeah.

:: 41:55

No, that was 2015.

:: 42:00

There's no way it was gone.

:: 42:01

Kevin Johnson.

:: 42:02

Ohh, right, right. Yeah.

:: 42:03

Yeah, OK. Yeah, 20 yeah, 2015.

:: 42:06

That's probably, you know, it was probably right around that time.

:: 42:10

And it and it. Ohh, NFL started to become really political in that, like 2016 that was. And it it kind of all just I think culmination of the lions just breaking my heart for my whole entire life. Yeah and and then it also being like can we just like I watch sports to watch sports I'm I'm fine with.

:: 42:32

Talking politics, but I don't want to talk politics when I watch sports and that that, that whole thing soured me to it. So I think those two things made me kind of just like, yeah, I'm. I'm good but.

:: 42:44

Funny you mentioned there's rumors of Colin Kaepernick being an assistant coach for Jim Harbaugh.

:: 42:52

Yeah, he's still around.

:: 42:52

Ohh, the quarterback that took him to the Super.

:: 42:54

Bowl. Wow.

:: 42:55

Yeah, yeah, they've they've got.

:: 42:56

Quarterbacks coach or something like that.

:: 42:58

Probably something like that. Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

:: 43:00

I mean and and that's.

:: 43:01

Fine, that's probably. I mean, it's funny, he probably should have been pursuing that over trying to get into the NFL as like a 36 year old who hadn't played in six years, probably have made a lot more, a little more sense. I'm sure the people around him went you, you could coach. Yeah. I mean, you were. He was a fine quarterback when he was actually playing.

:: 43:10

Right.

:: 43:20

Enforced on being a quarterback, but that's.

:: 43:23

I can see him bringing him in. That's a.

:: 43:25

Yeah. Yeah, that's a Jim Harbaugh move, for sure.

:: 43:27

As a totally and probably just rebranding him completely like be like, just just leave all the other stuff behind and let's just you be the best quarterbacks coach in the NFL and he probably will be probably.

:: 43:38

Yeah, and and the.

:: 43:39

Do you think he could leave it behind, though? Colin Kaepernick's identity is his activism.

:: 43:45

Well, he's going to wear the socks.

:: 43:46

Mm-hmm. Like, and I think part of that is there's a draw when you have even a negative outlook on things like people will watch it and comment and yeah, like, it could be just a power move to draw attention that increases sales, increases viewership.

:: 43:56

So watch it is Los Angeles after all.

:: 44:06

Whatever. Right like that? That's a business play right there.

:: 44:09

Yeah. Yeah. I think for me, you know Harbaugh.

:: 44:12

What makes Harpa a great coach is what makes Dan Campbell a great coach. It's not necessarily the xenos. Even though Harbaugh, he is great with quarterbacks, that is undeniable as much as I dislike Michigan, which I don't like, Michigan even a little bit.

:: 44:28

Do you do you fall somewhere else in college football or college football?

:: 44:30

Oh, oh, absolutely. Ohio State and I and I have for a very long.

:: 44:33

Ohh God.

:: 44:34

You want to come over here, Tyler. Yeah. Oh.

:: 44:34

Time you guys want to seriously. Yeah, yeah.

:: 44:42

And we're we're outside Ann Arbor.

:: 44:44

Right now, let's let's put that in perspective. We are outside of Ann Arbor right now.

:: 44:45

I went, I went.

:: 44:48

Matter of fact, I threw all my Ohio State gear on and went down to ESPN Game day and I don't.

:: 44:53

Do you have enough?

:: 44:55

Have a house.

:: 44:55

Damn it, did it. They did it in a helmet. Next.

:: 44:56

Tell you to see Ann Arbor win the national championship.

:: 44:59

No, not really. Honestly, it was it was cool for like I have all of my friends, essentially our.

:: 45:08

Fans and it's been since what, 97? Something like that. So it was actually kind of nice. Like, I was happy for people honestly like it because it is just sports. Like I'm not going.

:: 45:18

To right. I'm gonna be * **** to people. Just because you know.

:: 45:22

Ultimately, you have nothing to do with what.

:: 45:22

You don't take it that seriously.

:: 45:24

Happens, that's why.

:: 45:24

Right.

:: 45:26

Like I I remember you know, some people be like, are you like, are you really depressed after this particular loss or something?

:: 45:26

Right.

:: 45:33

No, I mean, yeah, I'm. I can be bummed and, like, disappointed, but also not be an ******* to my family as a team. Lot like, they don't give a **** about me. They don't have. I have nothing to do with what happens there. You know, as much as you like to think because you grab the fork.

:: 45:38

Right.

:: 45:41

Right.

:: 45:42

Right.

:: 45:51

Instead of the knife.

:: 45:52

Right. Yeah, that's the lions mentality, really, is. You're so used to losing that like, it doesn't really bother.

:: 45:52

In your first like, it has nothing to do with.

:: 46:00

For you anymore?

:: 46:01

But now it would. OK, yeah. OK well.

:: 46:03

Yes, but I'm also a Toronto Maple Leafs fan, so double that. So the Lions 5757 or 595957, your lines are 57, Leafs are 67. The the Tigers are 86.

:: 46:19

84 Yep 84.

:: 46:22

84 Yep, 84 OK 84. Yeah. So before I was born, every team that I root for won their last championship before I was born. Those three teams in particular. Yeah. So yeah, it's it's some I remember.

:: 46:22

84 Yeah, he's right.

:: 46:36

Yeah, doing the math a long time, but now it.

:: 46:38

And was that 7070 or 7060? It's like 100 and 104 sixty 170 years of no championships combined for all the teams that cheer for so. And I don't watch the NBA, I can't do it.

:: 46:50

That's something.

:: 46:52

OK.

:: 46:52

So I just college basketball, I can do, but I'm just not like, I'll watch it. I'll watch it in March, man.

:: 46:57

NBA games.

:: 46:59

I'm that I'm that guy. What? What happened to the NBA? Because I used to watch the NBA in high school. You know, early 2000s Pistons, one and 04. I watched every game, and by maybe 08, I had zero interest in the league.

:: 47:00

That's fine.

:: 47:13

You know what happened? I think LeBron J.

:: 47:16

Games going to Miami is what happened. I think the the the Super teams which there were like quote UN quote super teams before, but not like that, it wasn't like I can't beat you. So I'm leaving to team up with this guy and now we can beat you together. That's like like it's so far away from like the bad boys.

:: 47:37

I'm like Michael Jordan. That's why. To me, Jordan will be the greatest of all time because.

:: 47:42

Was he had that mentality that LeBron James doesn't have? That's why LeBron James is the greatest, probably athlete we will ever see. That dude is a absolute freak of nature, he.

:: 47:53

Was a he?

:: 47:53

From from the first freaking game in the NBA, I've never. I remember watching that game and within you know what the like the first play of the game and he steals the ball and goes down and jams it. And I was just.

:: 48:05

Like dude, this guy is you could just.

:: 48:08

Tell you could tell I mean.

:: 48:09

And now we're 20 years later, and he's still doing it.

:: 48:10

Right. Still doing it. He's like, I gotta wait for.

:: 48:12

It's crazy. I'm waiting for Brownie. Yeah.

:: 48:13

My son? Yeah, he's literally. That's like when he was going to retire. He's waiting for Franny to show up. Yeah.

:: 48:17

You should have knocked some chick.

:: 48:19

A lot sooner.

:: 48:22

But dude, I I think that's what it was, yeah.

:: 48:24

Should have been like Tyreke Hill. Sorry.

:: 48:28

I think he has three kids in this last year with three.

:: 48:31

Different people. Ohh man.

:: 48:31

Yeah, yeah, I think he.

:: 48:33

That's a.

:: 48:34

Lot. Hey, if you've got a legacy.

:: 48:36

Time for the gossip column.

:: 48:38

I mean, Philip Rivers has what, like 9? Yeah.

:: 48:41

But all.

:: 48:41

With the same person.

:: 48:42

That's fair. Yeah, that we know of. I mean, who knows athletes or something? That dude, I I think that. I mean, that's what it was for me. I'm like this just doesn't feel competitive anymore. And then you have the lottery. And so like the the the Pistons. You know who can win like seven games and still get like the 5th 6th pick and.

:: 48:45

Sure. Yeah.

:: 49:00

So you you like the NFL system, which which with the lottery, you're.

:: 49:04

Talking about when you finish last, you just have the best odds to have the 1st overall pick, but you don't necessarily get the 1st overall.

:: 49:12

Exactly, yeah.

:: 49:12

Pick where like. I don't know what it is. NBA. I know NHL's like 20%, then 17 1/2% and so on. And didn't some some of the.

:: 49:21

Yeah, they're almost identical, I believe, yeah.

:: 49:26

Won the lottery being like the the last team to miss the playoffs or something, right at one point.

:: 49:32

Oh, several times. I mean, and like the the Pistons, for example, have been one of like, the worst team and missed out on the.

:: 49:40

First bet.

:: 49:40

And it's funny cause that happens with the Red Wings too. They smashed last time at last a few times and they end up with like you can in the NHL. You can only move down 3 picks and they've.

:: 49:42

Yeah, it does a lot.

:: 49:49

Moved down 3 picks multiple times.

:: 49:49

Yeah, it's.

:: 49:52

Crazy man Eiserman, thankfully knows what he what he's doing though, and I could get off topic but.

:: 49:56

Yeah, they're good. This. They're they're they're looking like they're gonna gonna get there this year.

:: 50:00

Yeah, to Brink it is. I mean, like, everybody was just.

:: 50:02

This is a good.

:: 50:03

Signing or good signing.

:: 50:03

Yeah. And nobody. Nobody liked it at the time. Nobody liked it at the time. And just like we're just going to be the worst team again. And he just came in and.

:: 50:12

Well, he only had eight goals a year before. I could barely get into that. That's right. But yeah, there's.

:: 50:20

I I can't remember how we got here. How did we get here? Ohh, we're talking about NBA, yeah.

:: 50:22

I don't know. Ohh we were talked.

:: 50:26

Before that, yeah, before that, we were talking about, we were talking about how are we watching the game essentially.

:: 50:26

We're going through all the leagues right now.

:: 50:32

And and with the NBA, they also changed a lot of rules on how it was officiated, and they made it basically, we don't want people to be able to play defense because if you remember that Pistons team, they won games in the playoffs. I want like Joel Fact Check me.

:: 50:37

Ohh that's true.

:: 50:41

And what?

:: 50:47

2004 playoffs for the NBA, I want to say they won games where they they had less than 80 points.

:: 50:54

It was less than 80 and and all the rest, yeah.

:: 50:54

They had the best defensive lineup.

:: 50:56

Unbelievable. And you could never. Now you don't win a game unless you. Unless you have over a.

:: 51:01

120 points, right?

:: 51:02

Could you imagine holding a team in the NBA to under 80 points? That's unheard.

:: 51:06

Just I I wanna say they won games where the other team had less than 70 points.

:: 51:06

Of great yeah.

:: 51:11

The oh, I'm sure that's true. You.

:: 51:12

I don't know what the score was of I went to game whatever the first home game was for the Pistons. I think that would be game 3.

:: 51:21

I went to game three of the finals in 04 against the Lakers. My dad's work had tickets.

:: 51:25

Or something I did not appreciate it at all.

:: 51:28

Yeah, I was eight. I was like 18. It was cool. Like, I knew how I knew it. Well, we're in the championship. I knew how cool it was, but I had no idea how.

:: 51:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:: 51:37

Much if, like now I wanted to go to a finals game and sit in a suite.

:: 51:41

How much I would have to pay?

:: 51:43

I mean those that's at least 1000.

:: 51:45

Dollars for a.

:: 51:45

Ticket in the championship like against that Lakers team that was Kobe and Shaq. I mean, it was unbelievable. It was so fun, but.

:: 51:46

Easily. Yeah. Oh yeah.

:: 51:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

:: 51:54

You know, now you buy that ticket. That's a $3000 ticket.

:: 51:57

Hey, like no problem with your gum.

:: 51:59

Through the the prices for the divisional game for the Lions, I mean that was, I mean, the cheapest you were finding was between 5 and 600 for upper upper deck.

:: 52:11

I I'm all out and I feel like I need.

:: 52:13

To you know, some some.

:: 52:13

I think I might need a refresh too.

:: 52:15

People can have a little bit more, you know, it's it's never a bad time to just pass that around.

:: 52:21

Look at that color. That's.

:: 52:23

Ohh you've got a.

:: 52:24

Full cup. Still, I gotta look.

:: 52:25

I've been talking a lot, you know.

:: 52:26

He's been talking all the time. He's hasn't had.

:: 52:27

Yeah. Yeah. Wet your whistle a little bit there.

:: 52:33

Let's go back to how how you're going to.

:: 52:35

Watch these games.

:: 52:37

Specifically, you know, like I know the games are going to be over. That's fine. We'll definitely give some predictions because then you can either people will go when idiot or you'll just look freaking genius.

:: 52:52

But how are you gonna watch these games? To bet on the Super?

:: 52:55

Or like from a fantasy perspective, where like your seasons over, you're not playing, at least you might be playing daily fantasy. Yeah, for these weeks. But as far as your the the in season regular season fantasy, that's all over.

:: 53:08

How will you use this championship game into the Super Bowl to inform your decisions later on?

:: 53:17

I mean.

:: 53:19

For me, I I'm going to be making the same type of bets that I make now. The fun thing with the Super Bowl is we get to make really weird bets, right?

:: 53:28

There's some weird bet, but there's also bets about like the commercials and the like.

:: 53:30

Yeah, and.

:: 53:32

Yes, Yep. Like how many. How many commercials? There's going to be, you know.

:: 53:35

The color of the Gatorade, yeah.

:: 53:37

Which it's like because they already know the answer to that.

:: 53:40

Yeah. And so you.

:: 53:42

Know I will.

:: 53:42

They just go, oh, a lot of people bet that there's going to be more than 85, so let's make it 84.

:: 53:46

Right.

:: 53:47

Right. Yeah. So like, I'll, I'll have fun with that, but I'm going to stick with like, you know, who I, you know who I think is going to be in. I do think it's going to be the Chiefs versus the Lions. I do after watching everything that's that's why I think is going to be in the Super Bowl.

:: 54:07

I wink at Tyler because he's sending me, you know, the Super Bowl colors are the opposite of.

:: 54:07

Know I.

:: 54:12

Uh, the logo the the logo theory.

:: 54:14

What you just said?

:: 54:16

Although there's, there's a lot. We'll we'll Joel. How much? What time are we at right now?

:: 54:22

Can we take a break?

:: 54:24

Right now.

:: 54:26

Yeah, let's take a.

:: 54:27

Break. All right, we're going to leave the. We're going to leave the conspiracy stuff at the end because that's that's its own freaking animal. Although we did get into some conspiracies earlier. We'll we'll get into some Super Bowl rigging, you know, cause the Super Bowl is all rigged. NFL is a fraud.

:: 54:44

Let's let's get into some picks. I think that that's like that's what people want to know who you've got winning, not just the AFC and NFC Championship, but ultimately the Super Bowl and and maybe we can kind of throw out, throw out all the possibilities of the Super Bowl, which is, you know, there's only four of them. So the potential of of those picks and.

:: 55:05

And what you've got, Nick, why don't you?

:: 55:06

Yeah. Alright. So I think it's chiefs, lions. I think we're.

:: 55:12

We are before the show. Derek and I talked about it. The season is closing, how it ended. I think Chief Lyons, I think I think this guy, we've said this for so many years, but I think this is the Lions year and the reason we get past San Francisco.

:: 55:29

Is when you're in the NFL playoffs, you have to do 2.

:: 55:32

Things you have to run the ball and you have to stop the run that is forever been the case in the NFL. You have to run the ball, stop the run, the best run, stop in the NFL.

:: 55:44

Is the Detroit Lions. They just are. They are fantastic. It's stopping the run and I don't think the Niners are going to try to push McCaffrey.

:: 55:55

I mean, he's already really dinged up. He's historically there. I'm sure, you know, he is historically injured, historically injured. He doesn't typically stay healthy very often.

:: 56:07

And then, like I said earlier, I think Jamir Gibbs is going to absolutely feast against that defense. Green Bay did.

:: 56:13

Like he did against Tampa do.

:: 56:15

Yeah, and and and, I mean he has, I mean the whole second-half of the season, he has been kind of unstoppable. Dude is just good. He is fast. I mean he he reads defense as well. He makes he's A1 cutback when I mean when when you guys watch the game, I mean you're going to see as soon as he plants his foot. He's just gone. He knows where he wants to go and he just.

:: 56:35

Goes for it, and so you know the the Niners.

:: 56:39

They can rush the passer as good as anybody in the NFL, but the Lions, they have to get the ball first. They have to run it effectively, and they have to score. You have to get Brock Purdy to play from behind. Purdy's an average quarterback. I hate to say that to anyone. That's that's a big Niners fan, but he's an average quarterback on a fantastic team.

:: 56:55

I don't.

:: 57:00

They are really, really good. I don't think it's going to be an easy win. I don't see. I don't see a blowout anything like that. But the Lions can run the ball. They can stop the run and they are disciplined. And that is all very, very important. And you have, I think, a better quarterback in Jared Goff than you do.

:: 57:19

Brock Purdy.

:: 57:19

Get over under.

:: 57:21

Goff 3 sacks on Goff.

:: 57:26

I'll take.

:: 57:27

Hold on, we'll say 3.53 point 5. What's your over under on that?

:: 57:29

3 point.

:: 57:30

OK. Yeah, there you go.

:: 57:32

I'm going to take.

:: 57:33

The under on that because of the play action. Again like you get the guys going outside the.

:: 57:40

Tackle you and and a lot of motion. It's very loves.

:: 57:43

It's gonna be tough to rush guys from the outside and to rush your linebackers into, yeah.

:: 57:47

Yeah, especially like you have you have Penny Sewell against, you know, their best, their best defensive lineman is Nick Bosa. But he's on the left side and he's going up against the best rate tackle in the NFL and that is not a debate. He is the best rate tackle in the NFL, and so he's not going to be getting home much at all.

:: 58:06

I don't think so. As long as Ragnell stays healthy, that's our.

:: 58:12

Frank the tank man. He is a beast.

:: 58:15

It doesn't matter if he's healthy.

:: 58:17

He's just gonna go out there anyway. Just put on a just put on a a sleeve. Another sleeve. Guys going to have, like, knee immobilizer. He's going to just have one straight leg and he'll still be better than half the league.

:: 58:19

That dude. It's unbelievable.

:: 58:27

I know.

:: 58:30

I know it's crazy, man, but that's why that's why and and you know, going over to the chiefs, that's the same thing. It's why I think the Chiefs are beating Baltimore. It's I I don't really trust Lamar in the playoffs. Still, that's Lamar is a better quarterback this year than he used to be.

:: 58:49

But I still don't trust him.

:: 58:50

Kind of that like, typical unbelievable in the regular season when the pressure is relatively off and then the pressure comes on and there's there is something about that like there are some guys where when the pressure comes and.

:: 58:59

Yeah, yeah.

:: 59:04

Seems like he's one of them that just they they squeeze the ball a little too hard, they make some silly plays and all I mean.

:: 59:12

In the NFL, in the playoffs, you make one stupid play. That's the difference.

:: 59:15

Yeah, and the Chiefs have a really good defense, too. They can. Again, they can stop the run. They've got a good secondary, and the Ravens their only weakness.

:: 59:24

And an OK quarterback.

:: 59:25

Yeah, OK, got that dude. But I say Pacheco, dude, he runs like he hates mother Earth the way he stomps on the ground. He is violent, and the Ravens only weakness is against the run. And so you, I mean, you let Mahomes use a play action on you.

:: 59:44

Just again, I just think it's going to be Chief Lions regardless of the of the the colors of the the Super Bowl logo, I think.

:: 59:52

Yes, yes. So you you mean it's going to be Taylor Swift against Stan Campbell.

:: 59:56

Is Taylor Swift because?

:: 59:57

Those are the faces of the franchise, let's be honest. Yeah. Yes. OK. I'm sorry. Yes, Eminem. Yes.

:: 59:58

Eminem. Yeah. So just Eminem.

:: 00:01

Eminem, yeah.

:: 00:03

I I did see.

:: 00:04

Let's do a celebrity death match.

:: 00:05

Yeah, fun, a funny meme that I saw was like it was Eminem versus Taylor Swift. And like, he's the only one that can stop her now. And so I kind of like that.

:: 00:17

That's amazing.

:: 00:18

I got one question for you.

:: 00:21

With a prop bet.

:: 00:23

Christian McCaffrey before the show, the over under rushing yards was, I think 84 1/2.

:: 00:30

I'm taking it under.

:: 00:32

I was taking under 2.

:: 00:34

Because the Lions haven't allowed a rusher 80 plus yards on the season, even though he's statistically the best running back in the league right now.

:: 00:44

But but the Niners don't have a great offensive line. They're ranked around 20 as far as offensive line performance. Both Rush and Pat.

:: 00:52

So and they're not going to his over under 4/4 rushes is 19 1/2. They're not running him 20 times. They're just not doing that. They know that the line is secondary. Can they move out of a lot of yards, right? Everybody knows that. Not a ton of of scores really like considering, you know, quarterbacks will drop 300 and 5400 yards.

:: 01:13

On the on the secondary, but they'll give up 2030 points at the most, but I mean, I'm taking under on both those props.

:: 01:21

Right. Yeah, I I agree with that for sure.

:: 01:24

Derek, who do you? Who do you have winning? We'll start lions, lions, 49ers.

:: 01:29

Just the inner Lions fan in me, even though I want it.

:: 01:33

To be our year.

:: 01:35

I always am going to think of the worst, like my expectations for the season have been met.

:: 01:41

Yeah, they made, they won the NFC North Division. Huge. They won their first playoff game. Huge. They won a second playoff game. Oh my gosh. Went bonkers.

:: 01:52

They're the.

:: 01:52

In, sorry, in 91 when they went to the NFC Championship game, did they play two playoff games or did they only play one?

:: 01:58

I I think they only played one actually.

:: 02:00

They only played one they had a.

:: 02:01

Bye week. Yeah.

:: 02:02

So is this the first time they've?

:: 02:03

Ever won two playoff games in a playoff season.

:: 02:05

Yes, correct. Yep.

:: 02:07

Before yeah, before the NFL was officially a league, they did win.

:: 02:07

That's freaking bunk. Yeah, before the NFL. Yeah, when it was the NFL.

:: 02:12

Yeah, in the 50s, yeah.

:: 02:14

Right, right. They they won. They won the the champion.

:: 02:22

National Football League.

:: 02:23

Yeah, that's what. That's what I mean. Is that like once the Super Bowl has happened, they have not won two?

:: 02:27

Playoff games in the same year.

:: 02:29

Yeah. Yes.

:: 02:31

So even though I want it to be our year, these expectations have been met. And what I believe is the best team in the NFL is in their way in the San Francisco 49ers, where they are complete on both sides of the ball. They have absolutely stout defense defensive backs.

:: 02:51

Where the Lions offense runs pretty well on both sides of the ball. I mean, at an elite level rush and pass offense, the Niners have the tools to actually battle both of those. But the lions don't.

:: 03:06

Of the defense right now to battle the pass offense that the.

:: 03:15

That the Niners offer with they have they have McCaffrey. They have Deebo Samuel, they have Brandon Ayuk. They have George Kittle. They have a quartet of elite weapons. They are all elite and it's because they have all those they. It's because they have Brock Curry, who's on a rookie contract.

:: 03:16

They they don't have that second hand.

:: 03:33

Yeah. Well, what and when your third best?

:: 03:36

This wide receiver could be.

:: 03:38

A handful of teams top wide receiver you.

:: 03:40

Yes, exactly.

:: 03:40

Know you're in a good place.

:: 03:42

You know you're in a good place.

:: 03:44

So while I believe the Lions will put up the best possible fight, they will cover the spread of 7 1/2 points coming into today.

:: 03:56

They will make it very close. They will come up short.

:: 04:01

I just believe that their team, the Niners, are just way too stacked for.

:: 04:08

Them to overcome this one honestly.

:: 04:12

When it comes to the AFC.

:: 04:13

Oh, wait one second.

:: 04:15

Do you think that your prediction is Lions fan first? Because you said the Lions fan 1st and not and and then betting second is that your Lions fan coming out or or are you like willing to put money? Are you going to put money on alliance for this?

:: 04:29

I'll I'll put money on the spread for sure. I might do money line as well.

:: 04:31

On the spread.

:: 04:35

And again, a lot of this depends on Blackburn, like Brock Purdy.

:: 04:38

I want to post this. I want to post a screenshot of this.

:: 04:41

Money like that we can do that, yeah.

:: 04:48

Put your money where your mouth is.

:: 04:51

Black Purdy, though.

:: 04:53

He was not good against Green Bay. He might be one of those guys that's not good under pressure and we know that when you get when you actually get pressure and black pretty, that's the thing. Like if they have to play.

:: 04:55

You true?

:: 05:04

Behind historically, their head coach is like in the last three years only has a couple wins. He's got a handful of wins playing from behind.

:: 05:15

How many rookie quarterbacks have taken their team to the Super Bowl can name some off the top of your head. He's a rookie, isn't.

:: 05:19

The rookies.

:: 05:21

He they're not rookie, he's not a rookie, no.

:: 05:23

Russell Wilson, I think won as rookie.

:: 05:27

Oh, that's right, he.

:: 05:28

Did did.

:: 05:28

Yeah, he fought pretty as a second year guy. He he took. He took over when Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt.

:: 05:31

Yeah, Brock for his second year.

:: 05:34

Trent Dilfer also took a team in the Super Bowl, so.

:: 05:36

Well, right, and that's that's always the point, right? And like not to get off topic, but Niners fans are. They're delusional about who black party is. They really they truly are because like, I I always.

:: 05:51

You hear that you're wrong. You know you're.

:: 05:56

Not at all.

:: 05:57

If if you want if you want to get some just good comments and just some good traffic to your your videos talk **** about Brock Purdy, the Niners fans.

:: 06:09

Will love it.

:: 06:09

Here we go.

:: 06:10

Yeah, I think like my last one, I got like 80 comments about like how stupid I was.

:: 06:16

And you know, The thing is, like their favorite thing to say is Jimmy Garoppolo.

:: 06:23

Why couldn't Jimmy do it? But the whole thing. So we've talked about Christian McCaffrey. He runs that offense. You shut McCaffrey down, you win the game. That is that, that it's the Niners offense. People don't seem to realize. So Christian McCaffrey got traded. Jimmy Garoppolo was a starter, and he was six and one with 1200 yards, 9 touchdowns, 1 interception.

:: 06:42

110 quarterback rating with Christian McCaffrey that he got.

:: 06:46

But pretty came in and basically he's been putting up the same numbers, has nothing to do with black. Pretty black, pretty is Jimmy G think lasagna horn, you know, like. Yes, exactly. So you stopped McCaffrey.

:: 06:54

The team around.

:: 06:55

Yeah, fix.

:: 06:56

It it's like Jimmy. Yeah. Varopoulos had the same kind of vibe happened to him in New England, even though they didn't make the playoffs. They were like, 11 and five. Yep, and missed the playoffs. Yeah.

:: 07:05

The year Brady got hurt, I have I.

:: 07:07

Have a I.

:: 07:08

Gotta call this back to the the delusion.

:: 07:11

OK.

:: 07:12

Lions are lions. Fans are delusional, sure, and I think.

:: 07:16

That if you're going to compare if I if I could compare 49ers delusion about party, we could say the same thing about the Lions delusion regarding Matthew Stafford. We believed in that man so many years.

:: 07:31

Traded him. And what did he do? He won a Super Bowl.

:: 07:33

Win the.

:: 07:35

So party might have it.

:: 07:37

I don't think we can write them out. You know, just because maybe the 49ers aren't his team, he could find a team that just automatically clicks like Goff is with the Detroit Lions.

:: 07:49

The Matthew Stafford Golf Trade has worked out very well for both teams where if they were swapped on the originals, it hasn't been successful for either so.

:: 07:59

I don't think it's necessarily pretty in this instance. Maybe he's just.

:: 08:04

Not on the right.

:: 08:07

I think I mean pretty he's he.

:: 08:09

He's a second year guy too.

:: 08:11

There's there's some growth to have.

:: 08:11

He he's new, he's new, he's got.

:: 08:13

New guy? Look, he's not bad. He's good. He's an average NFL quarterback, I think.

:: 08:20

Which an average NFL quarterback, still the 15th to 20th best quarterback in the NFL, which is the 15th best quarterback in the whole freaking world, is not a bad place to be. Doesn't mean you're garbage. It just means that you're the 15th best and not the third best. You aren't Patrick Mahomes.

:: 08:28

Right. Yeah, right. And so not.

:: 08:32

Right, exactly.

:: 08:35

Right.

:: 08:36

And that's OK like.

:: 08:38

Right. It's the same thing. I could see you. I can see the same thing about about Jared Goff. Jared Goff is very similar. He's very insulated, just like pretty is you.

:: 08:40

Mark Jackson, yeah.

:: 08:47

He's in a perfect system for him.

:: 08:49

Where he, Jared Goff doesn't improvise well under pressure, right? Like Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes. You get him under pressure with Mark Jackson. They improvise, and they can. They can make crazy plays.

:: 09:00

Which is why against Tampa Bay, when he the one play where you tried to improvise, he.

:: 09:05

Yeah, yeah.

:: 09:06

It looks like he's just.

:: 09:07

Yeah, it's true.

:: 09:08

You look like.

:: 09:08

Me. Right. Right. But you put the best offensive line around him. Now he's just, he's just performing. It rarely happens, but that's what they have spent a lot of draft capital is.

:: 09:15

That rarely happens, yeah.

:: 09:20

I mean, rarely happens that he has to improvise. Sorry.

:: 09:22

Correct. Right. Right, right. So, so I would say the same thing about Jared Goff, Jared Goff and brought pretty are very similar type quarterbacks. But when they're playing from behind, so if the Lions have to play from behind, they're going to get, they're going to get wrecked. If they get down to scores, they're going to get demolish.

:: 09:40

Because they the Niners can just pin their ears back and go off and and you're not going to stop that pass rush.

:: 09:46

Do you guys follow the account cold hard?

:: 09:48

Takes no yes.

:: 09:49

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

:: 09:51

It's basically like people giving their takes on sports and then.

:: 09:54

They go back three months later and they go look at this later.

:: 09:56

Four years later.

:: 09:58

Yeah, for years here we got it right.

:: 09:59

So I I think I think there there's a chance that we've.

:: 10:03

Some like we can be like, look at how smart these guys are. Yeah. But also we could just tag cold heart takes like.

:: 10:15

Garbage stores for 500 yards.

:: 10:18

Straight into the Ravens and wins.

:: 10:21

I think we still have not gotten to your your AFC picks. Let's get to your AFC picks and then we're going to get to who you think is going to the Super Bowl.

:: 10:23

Oh yeah.

:: 10:25

Right.

:: 10:30

But not because of anything that you any of the. Well let's.

:: 10:36

Yeah. So based on football alone, I still believe the both #1 seeds. So the Niners and the Ravens will be in the Super Bowl against each other. The Ravens, I I don't know if it's just also the Lions fan in me that saw the Ravens. Absolutely.

:: 10:57

Demolish, bend over and slap that lions ***.

:: 11:04

It was.

:: 11:04

I'm picturing that.

:: 11:05

It was awful. It was the worst game of the.

:: 11:08

Big cat.

:: 11:08

Season, no doubt.

:: 11:09

Big cat Rudy.

:: 11:10

I think it was like 38 to six or something like that, yeah.

:: 11:16

So that's the if the.

:: 11:17

Lions win. That's the matchup you do not want.

:: 11:19

Correct, yes. So the Chiefs all the way.

:: 11:23

But I believe it's the Ravens year their defense has been absolutely outstanding. Yeah.

:: 11:28

I have.

:: 11:31

Historically, so yeah.

:: 11:32

Historically, so yes, the Ravens defense has always been very.

:: 11:36

Out and I believe they're going to catch the chiefs who are on a down offensive year where Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes. But.

:: 11:47

His offense around him has not been great at all. They've led the league in dropped passes from all of their pass catchers.

:: 11:57

Like all of a sudden, he's got neon branch and.

:: 12:00

Tom-tom Brady had some of those teams really, like, I don't know if they can do it. And then he'd still.

:: 12:04

Yeah, yeah.

:: 12:05

Win the Super Bowls so.

:: 12:08

But he's, I don't know if I'm comparing Mahomes to Brady.

:: 12:10

Yet Mahomes has been able to make it work, though, and they still ended up winning the division. So.

:: 12:11

That's the I think.

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But I don't believe that they'll be able to overcome this Ravens defense that.

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Is able to rush the quarterback, even though the Chiefs have a very good offensive line. The the Ravens have a pretty darn good secondary with outstanding safety play.

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MM.

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And some very talented corners. I just don't think that with their with the Chiefs.

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Very mediocre wide receiver core that they will be be able to overcome the Ravens.

:: 12:50

I do like that both of you.

:: 12:51

Have the complete opposite picks.

:: 12:53

Which, by the way, I'm taking the under for the Chiefs Ravens. Yeah, for sure.

:: 12:57

I like the under too.

:: 12:59

There's going to be like it's going to be like 10 to 13 or something weird. Those defenses are too good.

:: 13:03

Yes, agreed.

:: 13:05

Now, if you were to go on to our conspiracy or to into Tyler's brain, you know, you might find Derek's picks being the the picks that are being spread around because of the colors of the of the Super Bowl logo. What's the?

:: 13:20

There because this happened the last two years. What's the theory?

:: 13:22

Here. OK. So let's start off with this analytically. I don't necessarily agree with this, but I love the theory behind it. The conspiracy is that within the last three years, the Super Bowl logo has been a gradient of two colors. And these two colors.

:: 13:40

This this logo was released.

:: 13:43

What, before the playoffs even start, and these two colors end up being the main colors of the two teams that are in?

:: 13:50

The Super Bowl.

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And something three years.

:: 13:52

So the last electric color that's on top.

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And the and the the team that's on.

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The bottom wins.

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Seen this on the bottom.

:: 13:58

So so you have this weird and this was right when.

:: 14:02

UM.

:: 14:03

Sports spending was legalized throughout all of the states. You know you can do it, you can do it from your home. If you want to. Now, that was not always the case. So the NFL switched to.

:: 14:11

Right.

:: 14:16

Company and with this comes.

:: 14:19

A little bit of sketchiness.

:: 14:21

From a sports.

:: 14:22

Yes, you've got. You've got hundreds of millions of dollars and.

:: 14:22

They were nonprofit, yeah.

:: 14:27

That's because they and they were non profit because you had the NFL and then each individual team is their own entity.

:: 14:34

And and so the NFL wasn't.

:: 14:36

Technically making money.

:: 14:37

Right, right. Yeah.

:: 14:38

Well, I mean that is Rogers rolling in the dough, but you have you have essentially a restructuring of.

:: 14:45

Company and sports spending becoming legalized and then in the enormous influx of money comes great power and.

:: 14:50

Then you came the WWE.

:: 14:57

And responsibility. And and it's interesting to note that it has been so consistently those two colors that have been represented now, if you, if you look at the current logo, it's purple and red and how many red teams have been in the in the in the playoffs, we've got the Chiefs, we've got the 49ers.

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That was coming. Thank you.

:: 15:18

We've got.

:: 15:20

The 49ers are being bombed.

:: 15:21

The Buccaneers, you have multiple teams that could be red, but if you've got purple, I mean, there's only one team that's greens, purple, and that's the Ravens.

:: 15:30

I also saw somebody taking the colors and they were like, well, see if you really think about it, you have to blend these two colors together and that equals this. So that means that the it'll actually be the bucks and the lines I saw somebody do that I was like.

:: 15:46

Now, OK, sports betting. Do you think that?

:: 15:50

Maybe not the whole.

:: 15:51

Thing because that that would be, you know.

:: 15:53

There's there's a.

:: 15:54

Like and I I I tend to agree with this that like how are you going to get hundreds of people or even dozens of people to never talk about this? Well, there are like a couple of people. Shoot. What's the Adrian former running back for the Houston Texans he was taking?

:: 16:14

Aaron Aaron Foster. Yes, he has.

:: 16:17

A he came out and he said something like, yeah, I would get a script every week and they would tell me, like, what was?

:: 16:22

Gonna happen and like.

:: 16:22

You're so full of.

:: 16:23

Yeah, I I don't believe that for a second.

:: 16:27

There's one guy. Yeah. Now, now it could be, you know, or, yeah, anyways.

:: 16:28

You got being a meme, you being a choker.

:: 16:33

I doubt that that many people could keep.

:: 16:35

A secret?

:: 16:35

Right.

:: 16:36

But is there a chance that there's a guy over here? Look, there's some clips where you watch and it's like a regular season game, and this team needs to win. And there's a clear path to going and tackling a guy into the end zone. And the player runs, right.

:: 16:53

To a blocker away from where the quarterback running.

:: 16:57

And there's some weird plays where you go why would you ever do that or?

:: 17:02

How could you drop that ball or, you know, all these things that go into? Is there a chance that, yeah, on those small things that there's a like, hey, we want this team to get the to meet the spread. So don't do this or that like.

:: 17:06

Cowboys game with the Longmans.

:: 17:16

I I think the easiest thing to recognize if something is a little like not right is from the refs. You I've seen clips of refs bumping into players accidentally accidentally knocking the ball out of hands of players.

:: 17:33

I don't buy that for a second. Those guys know where to stand. They know where to be. If they're on the way they need, they need to be in a way to push some sort of narrative. But if you've got guys that have been playing football their entire life, they don't.

:: 17:49

Know how to.

:: 17:50

Act. They're not actors. Those are competitive.

:: 17:53

Driven hard working guys, they're not going to give up.

:: 17:58

Some play because some guy gave him, you know, $1,000,000. They want to ******* win and they're gonna, they they have dreamed about this Super Bowl win their entire play their entire life. Sorry that.

:: 18:15

What is one play, you know, $1 million going to give them over the glory that they've.

:: 18:22

Dreamed about, you know, since they were little. Yeah. Honestly. Which? If you win a Super Bowl, your contract.

:: 18:23

And and the next contract by the way, and the next contract which we will exceed $1,000,000.

:: 18:32

Like guys who?

:: 18:32

It's worth way more than. Yeah, it depends.

:: 18:33

Only make it makes the league minimum the NFL 600,000.

:: 18:36

Yeah, it depends on on how long you've been in you.

:: 18:36

It's like 700,000, yeah, so.

:: 18:39

I mean, and granted, I know those guys aren't generally.

:: 18:42

Playing the skilled position, those are your they're on your special team, but.

:: 18:45

Late round pegs, yeah.

:: 18:48

I mean, I don't know that it's out of the realm of possibility that somebody offers somebody's money or.

:: 18:52

I love the idea of it because it definitely happens.

:: 18:55

I I think that it's more on a on a very small scale or or a I. I think Vegas has a ton of influence.

:: 19:04

In the like, no, we we really need this team to win right now. Well, we really need this team to not.

:: 19:11

Make the spread. So let's you know.

:: 19:14

Do you remember the Buffalo Wild Wings commercials? I wish this game would go into overtime and they press the button.

:: 19:22

Make something happen again. Either way I can.

:: 19:25

Tell you looks like this games going overtime.

:: 19:28

I I I.

:: 19:29

Do also you know, I think there's so much money and influence in in the entertainment world. And when you look at the Chiefs being.

:: 19:41

And also being tied to now, Taylor Swift, who draws so much more media attention which you know goes.

:: 19:48

Advertising money, it seems so clear, you know, let's be having it is very clear that Taylor Swift being involved with the Chiefs, the top tier team has some sort of media influence and drive for monetary reasons.

:: 20:08

I guess I would. I would. I and Taylor Swift, obviously popular, but are there other NFL players that are dating, like some celebrity? Some.

:: 20:08

Right, like.

:: 20:16

Not like swift.

:: 20:17

Not not. I mean SWIFT 600 million followers.

:: 20:18

Well, there's no one like.

:: 20:21

There's, there's. There's few CIA operatives out there that are.

:: 20:26

If if we're going to go into real conspiracy theories, right?

:: 20:28

Have you seen that one? Have you seen that the the UN? There's like a lady at the UN? Who is? They're they're in one of their sessions. They're talking about how this is like seven or eight years ago. Kind of like it's not as if Taylor Swift was nothing but she hadn't blown up to the proportion she just now. And they actually talked about.

:: 20:47

Acquiring her as an assessor manager.

:: 20:48

This is what I was just about to talk about. Is it WEF? Actually yeah. The WEF. The world economy, yeah.

:: 20:52

With the web.

:: 20:52

The world economy.

:: 20:55

UN WF say.

:: 20:57

That they wanted to convert her into an asset because of her influence on young minds. So you, you've got this person who's now associated with an NFL team who's now an entertainment company.

:: 21:11

Driving all this viewership, which then?

:: 21:15

Consequently, is all this advertiser money.

:: 21:18

We've got something really shady.

:: 21:20

Long story short, you can make a lot of money betting on the NFL, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to like bow to the fellow right like you shouldn't have.

:: 21:28

Follow with the media showing you and you're.

:: 21:30

Gonna pick your your.

:: 21:31

Win now. Now, here's here's my theory on this.

:: 21:35

Is that they?

:: 21:37

Were doing this until somebody realized what was happening.

:: 21:40

And then now they're flipping the script, right. And so all these people are going to have a two team parlay of the Niners and the Ravens, and both are going to lose lose.

:: 21:49

Yep. So the NFL put out the, like, oopsy look like they did the. Yeah, they've got their people going out there and posting on Reddit.

:: 21:55

Yep, Yep. They they've got so much media presence that they can analyze Twitter, whatever is posting all of the, you know, YouTube shorts, where people, I mean, cause.

:: 22:00

Yeah, yeah.

:: 22:05

Yeah, yeah.

:: 22:07

My YouTube shorts, that's usually what I use for social media. It is covered in this logo conspiracy theory.

:: 22:15

That's because you keep looking up the.

:: 22:17

Freaking elephant. No, I mean it's it's, it's interesting. But but if you're a real businessman and you say, OK, if I want to control my money and everybody believes this is going to happen, why don't I flip the script by paying off these refs $200 million.

:: 22:21

It knows that you're drooling over it.

:: 22:34

Now there's attention in France.

:: 22:35

And I can.

:: 22:36

Make a bill off so.

:: 22:37

I don't whatever I don't.

:: 22:38

Think they paid the refs off, but if you look at who they assigned as the refs, the one for the Chiefs Ravens game.

:: 22:42

Oh yeah.

:: 22:46

He in the playoffs, I I forget the actual number now, but overwhelmingly calls penalties on the home team and the way team wins under this head. Refs like tutelage, I mean consistently consistently. So the Chiefs have this kind of weird advantage already.

:: 23:06

And then the other.

:: 23:07

Ref. Do you know who? Do you know who?

:: 23:09

The ref is for the lions.

:: 23:10

Cleat Blake man. Ohh yeah he is. Has a history with Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers who he was formerly with and I do not appreciate his.

:: 23:22

His time and officiating our games, yeah.

:: 23:25

Hates the.

:: 23:26

Lions so does.

:: 23:27

It seems like we're we get real frustrated at.

:: 23:27

Is he hates the lions?

:: 23:29

Some point it's it's interesting too, because you talk about the the referees that are chosen. If you look at the past several games, the Lions.

:: 23:29

We might. Yeah, we might.

:: 23:38

Played the Dallas.

:: 23:40

You have the same ref officiating those games, always making. I don't mean to be a bitter lions fan, but.

:: 23:49

If the same guy is officiating the same game and making the same calls against the same team.

:: 23:56

How easy it is it to just?

:: 23:57

Be like, hey, we should just like let's let's.

:: 23:58

Like something nefarious is going on here, you know?

:: 24:00

Just we have a we have a slew of.

:: 24:01

And call me a bitter lions fan. But something's gotta be. I mean it. It seems so obvious. I just want to look at the facts and the facts are are there? Well, how.

:: 24:02

Referees that could do this.

:: 24:06

We're allowed to.

:: 24:10

I'm more bitter at Martha though.

:: 24:14

Can you ignore them? Yeah.

:: 24:16

Love it. Love it. All right, well, I think we should. We should wrap this up. We'll we'll revisit this again. Nick, we definitely want to have you on again to you know, we'll whenever we have you on again, we'll talk about what happened in the Super Bowl. You know, NFL drafts coming up. It's in Detroit. That'll be fun. So we'll we'll try to.

:: 24:25

OK.

:: 24:36

Get you on again before, before the draft, cause that's gonna be. Are you gonna go to the?

:: 24:40

Yeah. Ohh yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

:: 24:42

I mean.

:: 24:43

It would be cool to just go. I've. Yeah. Same. I'm not even a huge like, I'm not a huge avid NFL.

:: 24:44

Yeah, yeah, that'll be amazing.

:: 24:50

Yeah, it's gonna be an event, though. It's gonna be awesome.

:: 24:51

But it's really fun to go to those like All Star games, or like anything like that, where the where the whole league is going to.

:: 24:58

Be there, it's just.

:: 24:59

Fun event.

:: 25:01

All right. Well, that's cooktop.

:: 25:02

OK, thanks to Nick for being on the show. And even though this is your both your first show, you guys are going to be on Derek and Tyler going to be on the show regularly. But Nick, Oh my gosh, I I have to like.

:: 25:10

You'll see us more often.

:: 25:16

I can't even think of it now. Kiss, kiss, kiss. A loose kiss. Yes. See. It's the first time I've ever said it out loud. Correct. Just tell everybody again where they can find you.

:: 25:19

Keselowski. Yeah, yeah. Just add more syllables. Yeah.

:: 25:26

Yeah. So TikTok is like my main thing, you'll Nicholas Keselowski, I'm sure you.

:: 25:31

Guys have a.

:: 25:31

Yeah, it will be in the in the.

:: 25:31

Link for it and then and then I'm watching the the Patreon too, to start helping people learn how to actually bet and do it profitably without, you know, losing your ***.

:: 25:33

Description below you will click.

:: 25:44

Yeah, we'll have all his all the links, any links that we talked about in the show will be in the description below. And Derek, one more time working people find your content.

:: 25:52

You can find us at fantasyholics.com or you can follow us on Facebook and YouTube for our podcast that we offer. They're it's a dynasty podcast by our fat boys as well as few other IDP podcasts.

:: 26:14

Those guys do a very good job, but either way you can reach out to me at #d Rock 313 or any one of us are able to answer your fantasy questions. Whatever you guys need. So.

:: 26:27

Derek, how do you spell holics?

:: 26:29

Fantasy holics like think of an alcoholic.

:: 26:32

HOLIC.

:: 26:34

Is it HOLIXHOLICKS?

:: 26:38

Fantasy HOL ics.com.

:: 26:42

Perfect. There it is.

:: 26:44

And if you have, you know half your drywall falling apart or something. Just.

:: 26:45

There it is.

:: 26:49

Yeah. Don't look me up.

:: 26:51

I'm a regional guy. I'll help you.

:: 26:53

But if you're watching in Detroit.

:: 26:54

You know, yeah.

:: 26:56

Out what happens if you like?

:: 26:57

All of a sudden get an influx.

:: 26:58

Of business because.

:: 26:59

Of this, hey, we're a national franchise, so.

:: 27:02

Hey, get on.

:: 27:02

If, if it's not me.

:: 27:04

Somebody else the patch boys? Thanks.

:: 27:07

Gentlemen, for being on the show and thank you to Joel for sitting here and.

:: 27:08

Yeah. Thank you. Yes.

:: 27:11

This entire thing, and this is only the first time he'll do this. Go lines. Yes. Yeah. And yeah, thanks for listening. You can find this on Instagram, TikTok, all the good things.

:: 27:15

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:: 27:24

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